Re: [gnu-advisory] Fwd: [sr #110460] My project has been lost?

[Jose E. Marchesi]

Hi Jaime.

We understand your frustation and we are trying to sort this out as soon
as we can.

Please give us a little more time.  Whatever the outcome is, it won't be
a lack of response.

Thanks :)

> It's been some days since the last email I received from you.
>
> It is quite strange that an issue like this does not have a simple
> answer... either I can keep KLog in Savannah or not, and a reason for that
> :-)
>
> Today I had to release KLog without being able to release in Savannah. The
> new version was ready since a few days and I decided to release.
>
> This is having an impact in all my users as they are notified if a new
> version is detected in the repositories (HOSTED IN Savannah) so KLog's
> users shall not be aware that there is a new release... even the mailing
> list has simply disappeared... The image of KLog for it's users is not
> serious and the same for Savannah, honestly.
>
> As I explained in a previous email, I choosed Savannah to host KLog not for
> the features but for being part of gnu.org.
> I have been happily hosting KLog in Savannah for 19 years (since 2002) but
> if Savannah is not willing to host KLog, even if I have not received a
> clear answer, I will move on.
> I will look for a new hosting for KLog as it is not going to stop just
> because a Savannah admin decided to remove it all.
>
> I really thing that Savannah is a serious project and it is providing a
> valuable service for the free software community.
> This is why I am so surprised and unhappy with this reaction but keep
> waiting for an answer.
>
> I will wait a few days more (hopping that everything has been a
> misunderstanding) before assuming a lack of response as a negative answer
> and change my KLog source code and the Debian package to point to another
> repository and assume that Savannah has kicked KLog out without a reason.
>
> Thank you for the ride.
> It was a nice one.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> El vie., 26 mar. 2021 19:24, Jose E. Marchesi <jemarch@gnu.org> escribió:
>
>>
>> Hello Jaime.
>>
>> Thanks for reaching us.
>> We will look into this and be back to you soon.
>>
>> > Dear GNU-Advisory and RMS,
>> >
>> > I have been suggested to contact you as I think Savannah is not managing
>> my
>> > case in a fair way.
>> >
>> > If you use 5 min to read this email thread you will see that and
>> > administrator of Savannah has deleted the full KLog project, including
>> > about 16 years of commits, releases and mailing list archives just
>> because
>> > some files of *another* *project* had the GPL headers missing in some
>> files.
>> >
>> > Without any warning this admin simply removed ALL our work in the KLog
>> > project what is against the own Savannah best practices.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately the admin is even not answering my questions when they are
>> > related to KLog.
>> >
>> > I really think that this has been just an error, but errors must be
>> solved
>> > and processes improved to prevent those errors to happen again.
>> >
>> > I am writing to you to ask for your support to recover KLog or at least
>> to
>> > get a confirmation that I have been kicked out of Savannah and I need to
>> > look another place to publish KLog after so many happy years in Savannah.
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance for your time.
>> >
>> > Jaime
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> > De: Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.es>
>> > Date: jue., 25 mar. 2021 19:50
>> > Subject: Re: [sr #110460] My project has been lost?
>> > To: Ineiev <ineiev@gnu.org>
>> > Cc: <savannah-help-public@gnu.org>, <savannah-hackers@gnu.org>
>> >
>> >
>> > Good evening,
>> >
>> > The ticket has been closed but I really think that the question about the
>> > KLog project removal after possibly 16 years, loosing those 16 years of
>> > releases, commits and mailing list archives deserves a better answer
>> than I
>> > warned that another project was not including the copyright header in
>> some
>> > files and therefore I remove all your projects, not only the one that was
>> > not fulfilling 100%.
>> >
>> > I really believe that Savannah should not act this way with the hosted
>> > projects, for the benefit of Savannah.
>> >
>> > Is it possible  to at least, answer my questions to the previous email?
>> >
>> > Thank for your time.
>> >
>> > Jaime
>> >
>> > El lun., 22 mar. 2021 16:57, Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.es> escribió:
>> >
>> >> Hello, good afternoon.
>> >>
>> >> Is there any chance to recover the KLog project or should I simply
>> assume
>> >> the lost of the repositories?
>> >> KLog's users are asking about and I don't know if I need to look for
>> >> another home of KLog or not.
>> >>
>> >> However I was reading through Savannah and what I found is that Savannah
>> >> should not remove projects.
>> >> Even KMeter should stay but definitely KLog should not have been
>> removed.
>> >>
>> >> https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/RemovingProject/
>> >>
>> >> https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/CodeOfConduct/
>> >>
>> >> My only intention is to keep coding free software not discussing, my
>> >> limited time is not for discussing. :-)
>> >>
>> >> I have been developing KLog for close to 20 years, most of them hosting
>> in
>> >> Savannah and I had not a single complain in terms of licensing.
>> >>
>> >> So, if Savannah considers that the you will not host KLog anymore, I
>> only
>> >> ask for a confirmation and the reasons for it.
>> >>
>> >> I choosed Savannah not for its services but for the meaning of having my
>> >> free software hosted here, to show my support to this community.
>> >>
>> >> I have a copy of all my sources, I can move away, but I liked the idea
>> of
>> >> supporting Savannah publishing my code here.
>> >>
>> >> So I just need to know if KLog has been kicked off or it is just a
>> mistake
>> >> that has a simple solution :-)
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Jaime
>> >>
>> >> El lun., 22 mar. 2021 13:44, Ineiev <ineiev@gnu.org> escribió:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello, Jaime;
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 07:05:09PM +0100, Jaime Robles wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Could you please tell me when you or any other Savannah admin has
>> ever
>> >>> sent
>> >>> > a warning on KLog?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm sorry, I sent no notices about it apart from those in task #15622,
>> >>>
>> >>> | Please be sure to fix these issues... in other your packages
>> >>> | hosted in Savannah.
>> >>>
>> >>
>>