Re: [gnu-advisory] Fwd: [sr #110460] My project has been lost?

[Jaime Robles]

Good evening,

It's been some days since the last email I received from you.

It is quite strange that an issue like this does not have a simple
answer... either I can keep KLog in Savannah or not, and a reason for that
:-)

Today I had to release KLog without being able to release in Savannah. The
new version was ready since a few days and I decided to release.

This is having an impact in all my users as they are notified if a new
version is detected in the repositories (HOSTED IN Savannah) so KLog's
users shall not be aware that there is a new release... even the mailing
list has simply disappeared... The image of KLog for it's users is not
serious and the same for Savannah, honestly.

As I explained in a previous email, I choosed Savannah to host KLog not for
the features but for being part of gnu.org.
I have been happily hosting KLog in Savannah for 19 years (since 2002) but
if Savannah is not willing to host KLog, even if I have not received a
clear answer, I will move on.
I will look for a new hosting for KLog as it is not going to stop just
because a Savannah admin decided to remove it all.

I really thing that Savannah is a serious project and it is providing a
valuable service for the free software community.
This is why I am so surprised and unhappy with this reaction but keep
waiting for an answer.

I will wait a few days more (hopping that everything has been a
misunderstanding) before assuming a lack of response as a negative answer
and change my KLog source code and the Debian package to point to another
repository and assume that Savannah has kicked KLog out without a reason.

Thank you for the ride.
It was a nice one.

Jaime


El vie., 26 mar. 2021 19:24, Jose E. Marchesi <jemarch@gnu.org> escribió:

>
> Hello Jaime.
>
> Thanks for reaching us.
> We will look into this and be back to you soon.
>
> > Dear GNU-Advisory and RMS,
> >
> > I have been suggested to contact you as I think Savannah is not managing
> my
> > case in a fair way.
> >
> > If you use 5 min to read this email thread you will see that and
> > administrator of Savannah has deleted the full KLog project, including
> > about 16 years of commits, releases and mailing list archives just
> because
> > some files of *another* *project* had the GPL headers missing in some
> files.
> >
> > Without any warning this admin simply removed ALL our work in the KLog
> > project what is against the own Savannah best practices.
> >
> > Unfortunately the admin is even not answering my questions when they are
> > related to KLog.
> >
> > I really think that this has been just an error, but errors must be
> solved
> > and processes improved to prevent those errors to happen again.
> >
> > I am writing to you to ask for your support to recover KLog or at least
> to
> > get a confirmation that I have been kicked out of Savannah and I need to
> > look another place to publish KLog after so many happy years in Savannah.
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your time.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > De: Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.es>
> > Date: jue., 25 mar. 2021 19:50
> > Subject: Re: [sr #110460] My project has been lost?
> > To: Ineiev <ineiev@gnu.org>
> > Cc: <savannah-help-public@gnu.org>, <savannah-hackers@gnu.org>
> >
> >
> > Good evening,
> >
> > The ticket has been closed but I really think that the question about the
> > KLog project removal after possibly 16 years, loosing those 16 years of
> > releases, commits and mailing list archives deserves a better answer
> than I
> > warned that another project was not including the copyright header in
> some
> > files and therefore I remove all your projects, not only the one that was
> > not fulfilling 100%.
> >
> > I really believe that Savannah should not act this way with the hosted
> > projects, for the benefit of Savannah.
> >
> > Is it possible  to at least, answer my questions to the previous email?
> >
> > Thank for your time.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> > El lun., 22 mar. 2021 16:57, Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.es> escribió:
> >
> >> Hello, good afternoon.
> >>
> >> Is there any chance to recover the KLog project or should I simply
> assume
> >> the lost of the repositories?
> >> KLog's users are asking about and I don't know if I need to look for
> >> another home of KLog or not.
> >>
> >> However I was reading through Savannah and what I found is that Savannah
> >> should not remove projects.
> >> Even KMeter should stay but definitely KLog should not have been
> removed.
> >>
> >> https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/RemovingProject/
> >>
> >> https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/CodeOfConduct/
> >>
> >> My only intention is to keep coding free software not discussing, my
> >> limited time is not for discussing. :-)
> >>
> >> I have been developing KLog for close to 20 years, most of them hosting
> in
> >> Savannah and I had not a single complain in terms of licensing.
> >>
> >> So, if Savannah considers that the you will not host KLog anymore, I
> only
> >> ask for a confirmation and the reasons for it.
> >>
> >> I choosed Savannah not for its services but for the meaning of having my
> >> free software hosted here, to show my support to this community.
> >>
> >> I have a copy of all my sources, I can move away, but I liked the idea
> of
> >> supporting Savannah publishing my code here.
> >>
> >> So I just need to know if KLog has been kicked off or it is just a
> mistake
> >> that has a simple solution :-)
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Jaime
> >>
> >> El lun., 22 mar. 2021 13:44, Ineiev <ineiev@gnu.org> escribió:
> >>
> >>> Hello, Jaime;
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 07:05:09PM +0100, Jaime Robles wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Could you please tell me when you or any other Savannah admin has
> ever
> >>> sent
> >>> > a warning on KLog?
> >>>
> >>> I'm sorry, I sent no notices about it apart from those in task #15622,
> >>>
> >>> | Please be sure to fix these issues... in other your packages
> >>> | hosted in Savannah.
> >>>
> >>
>