Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?

[Jude DaShiell]

If you can't get past the graphical captcha that accessible page is
useless.

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:29:43
> From: Karen Lewellen <address@hidden>
> To: Jude DaShiell <address@hidden>
> Cc: Alejandro Lieber <address@hidden>, address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?
>
> Jude,
> Your comment about the cell phone is quite important, because amazon is
> presenting  the www.amazon.com/access page for  those wanting a simplified
> experience, stating it is comparative to the mobile one.
> Alejandro, I echo  Jude's question about the audio challenge, since others
> here even without using a screen reader, cannot play it.
> Likewise I take it amazon is accepting all of your lynx cookies?  You are not
> getting the error requesting that you turn cookies  on?
> lastly, which ms dos are you running, and how did you install that edition of
> Lynx?  My understanding was that there were windows binaries only, not dos
> ones.
> While I do not   wish to  make this about the use of screen readers, I am
> interested if your experience differs from those reported by others  where
> this amazon issue is concerned.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
> > I'm sure it does, you don't use a screen reader though which means you
> > have no trouble with the captcha.  Have you tried playing the audio
> > challenge and if so were you able to hear it?  What's happening with
> > lynx and amazon is also happening on cell phones too.  I did a factory
> > reset on the cell phone and accessibility won't be enabled until Staff
> > comes over and turns it on for me.
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Alejandro Lieber wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 07:00:13
> >> From: Alejandro Lieber <address@hidden>
> >> To: address@hidden
> >> Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?
> >>
> >> Karen:
> >>
> >> I use LYNX ver 2.9.0dev.1 in my MSDOS computer with a 40MHz Cyrix 486DLC
> >> and 8
> >> MBy RAM and yellow Hercules monitor. Works great.
> >>
> >> Alejandro Lieber
> >>
> >> A port for MSDOS, by Ju?n Manuel Guerrero:
> >>
> >> "This is a port of Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 to MSDOS/DJGPP.
> >>
> >> ? DJGPP specific changes.
> >> ? =======================
> >> ? This port is based on the current develop code of lynx (aka
> >> lynx2.9.0dev.4)
> >> ? available as:
> >> https://invisible-mirror.net/archives/lynx/tarballs/lynx-cur.tar.bz2
> >>
> >> ? The code has been adjusted to detect at runtime if LFN support is
> >> available
> >> ? or not.? If LFN support is available then the original posix style file
> >> ? names will be used else DOS compatible ones will be used.
> >>
> >> ? The port will use cp850 as default code page instead of using iso-8859-1
> >> as
> >> ? it is in the current code.? It is clear that having iso-8859-1 on plain
> >> DOS
> >> ? as character set is useless as soon as spanish, german or other
> >> non-english
> >> ? texts shall be displayed.? You can always select another character set by
> >> ? either setting the corresponding environment variable or by editing
> >> lynx.cfg
> >> ? acordingly.
> >>
> >> ? The current version of lynx requires that the HOME environment variable
> >> is
> >> ? set to a writable directory or it will refuse to start.? To alleviate
> >> this
> >> ? situation, if HOME is not set, the current directory will be used instead
> >> ? by this port version.
> >>
> >> ? The port has been configured using the configure script provided by the
> >> ? source package.? This means that neither old DJGPP specific scripts nor
> >> ? makefiles distributed by the package have been used.? A lot of the
> >> porting
> >> ? work has been invested in the DJGPP specific configuration scripts.
> >>
> >> ? This port has been configured to be compiled with BZIP2, ZIP and PDCURSES
> >> ? support.? This means that if you want to recompile the preconfigured
> >> sources
> >> ? you must have installed the following ports:
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2apps/bz2-106ar2.zip
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/zlb1211b.zip
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/pdcur38a.zip
> >>
> >> ? The port has been configured and build without NLS support enabled.
> >> ? To enable this feature, the latest ports of libiconv and gettext must be
> >> ? installed:
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/licv116b.zip
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/gtxt201b.zip
> >> ? If you prefer NLS, then reconfigure the sources passing the nls flag to
> >> the
> >> ? config.bat file.
> >>
> >> ? The port has been configured with OPENSSL support.? OpenSSL support
> >> requires
> >> ? installing the WATT-32 port.? The following ports have been used:
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/ssl102sb.zip
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/wat3211b.zip
> >> ? No other versions have been tested.? To be able to use this program
> >> compiled
> >> ? with OpenSSL and WATT-32 a noise source must be installed.? A noise
> >> source
> >> ? can be obtained as:
> >> http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/noise063a2.zip
> >> ? If for some reason you decide to reconfigure the source package, then you
> >> ? will have to set the WATT_ROOT environment variable to point to the
> >> ? directory where the headers and the library reside.? This is:
> >> ??? set WATT_ROOT=/dev/env/DJDIR/net/watt
> >>
> >> ? To be able to run the program, configuration files are expected to be
> >> found
> >> ? at their canonical place.? This is the /dev/env/DJDIR/etc directory.? The
> >> ? configuration files lynx.cfg and lynx.css are stored in the /etc
> >> directory
> >> ? and reflect, to certain extent, the conditions during the configuration
> >> and
> >> ? compilation process of this port.? You may need to adjust the entries to
> >> fit
> >> ? your requiriments.? If lynx.cfg and lynx.css are not found at their
> >> canonical
> >> ? place then the program will try to load them from the installation
> >> directory
> >> ? of lynx.? To run the program, a working version of wattcp.cfg is
> >> required.
> >> ? This file is __NOT__ distributed with this port.? That file will reflect
> >> ? your network environment and hardware.? It is the user's job write
> >> one that
> >> ? matches his environment.? As a starting point you can use the one
> >> distributed
> >> ? with the WATT-32 port.? Please note that the location of wattcp.cfg must
> >> be
> >> ? specified by setting the WATTCP.CFG environment variable.? This can be
> >> done
> >> ? either in the environment, in autoexec.bat or in djgpp.env.? If the file
> >> ? cannot be found at any of the canonical places the program will try
> >> to load
> >> ? it from the installation directory of lynx.
> >>
> >> ? To be able to run the program, a DOS packet driver (PKTDRVR) is required.
> >> ? This may be obtained from the card manufacturer or from one of the
> >> archives
> >> ? of packet drivers (such as
> >> "http://www.lanet.lv/simtel.net/msdos/pktdrvr-pre.html";
> >> ? or
> >> "http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pktdrvr/";).
> >> ? Even when only browsing local files, a NULLPKT packet driver is required
> >> like
> >> ? nullpkt.zip.? The zip file can be downloaded as:
> >> http://www.jumpjet.info/Application-Software/DOS/Hardware/2/NULLPKT/NULLPKT.zip
> >>
> >> ? The lynx executable itself handles http:, https:, ftp:, file:, news:,
> >> nntp:
> >> ? and gopher: protocols. You will need external programs if you want to
> >> access
> >> ? telnet:, tn3270:, or mailto: URLs.? In this case a port of kermit may be
> >> ? required.
> >>
> >> ? Please note that lynx does _NOT_ support javascript at all.? So nothing
> >> will
> >> ? work that requires this feature.? If you need this, look for a different
> >> text
> >> ? web browser.
> >>
> >> ? It is important to realize that this port is a _PURE_ DOS port.? If for
> >> some
> >> ? reason you want to use lynx under Windows, you should download a windows
> >> port
> >> ? of lynx.
> >>
> >> ? If you decide to use this port as stand alone program then you can set
> >> the
> >> ? following environment variables to point to the required configuration
> >> files:
> >> ??? LYNX_CFG????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.cfg
> >> ??? LYNX_LSS????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.lss
> >> ??? WATTCP.CFG??? Set to the full path for the WATTCP.CFG directory
> >> ??? SSL_CERT_FILE Set to the full path and filename for your file of
> >> ????????????????? trusted certificates
> >> ? As a last resort, if the above environment variables are not set, the
> >> ? program will try to load those files from its installation directory.
> >> ? There is also a batch file stored in the /share/lynx_doc/samples
> >> directory
> >> ? that shows how to run lynx as a stand alone application.
> >>
> >> ? The DJGPP port now checks the OS version it is running on.? If it is
> >> equal
> >> ? or less than MSDOS 6.22 the double quotes around the file name passed to
> >> ? edit.com will be removed.? If this is not done, edit.com refuses to
> >> start.
> >> ? For OS like Win95 and above this is not necessary.? edit.com is the
> >> editor
> >> ? used by lynx at last resort.? The program's behaviour is not changed if
> >> an
> >> ? editor different from edit.com is selected in lynx.cfg.
> >>
> >> ? The DJGPP port now checks if LFN support is available.? If available then
> >> ? files with a leading dot are allowed/supported in case that this has been
> >> ? allowed by setting NO_DOT_FILES to FALSE in lynx.cfg.? In all previous
> >> ? versions, the setting of this value had absolute no influence in
> >> program's
> >> ? behavior if compiled with DJGPP.
> >>
> >> ? When connecting to a site via https, lynx will require that a file of
> >> ? trusted certificates is available.? It is your's responsability to
> >> create
> >> ? such a file and the port will _NEVER_ provide one.? This .PEM file is
> >> created
> >> ? using openssl tools.? Read the openssl documentation.? A working linux
> >> ? installation provides always one.? It may be found by its name
> >> ca-bundle.pem
> >> ? or similar.? In the end it must be a file in PEM format.? Store it where
> >> you
> >> ? like and point to it by setting the corresponding lynx environment
> >> variable
> >> ? like this:
> >> ??? set SSL_CERT_FILE=/dev/env/DJDIR/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.pem
> >> ? Of course the value propossed is arbitrary and reflects the way I
> >> have done
> >> ? it for my own installation of lynx.? A starting point for reading about
> >> how
> >> ? to create your own PEM files is:
> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/2002-12/msg00043.html
> >> ? It describes how to create one using the trusted certificates provide by
> >> the
> >> ? microsoft IE.
> >>
> >> ? I have tested this port by trying to access all sites that are listed in:
> >> https://royal.pingdom.com/using-web-browser-lynx-visit-top-websites/
> >> ? and I have experienced no issues.? I have also accessed some german and
> >> ? spanish sites to check if the special native characters are correctly
> >> ? displayed and I have found no issues.? I have also accessed
> >> www.delorie.com
> >> ? to check if the ftp support works well and if the cvs repository can be
> >> ? accessed via cvsweb interface and everthing works flawlessly. Of course,
> >> ? the mail archives can also be accessed without issues.
> >>
> >> ? Please note that I am not a lynx user.? I have ported it as a real world
> >> ? test for the OpenSSL and WATT-32 ports.
> >>
> >> ? Only to make this point clear, if you want to use lynx as a stand alone
> >> ? program without having to care about environment variables, copy
> >> lynx.exe,
> >> ? lynx.cfg and lynx.lss into the same directory and it will work. When
> >> copying
> >> ? the .PEM file it must be renamed to "cert.pem".? This is mandatory or it
> >> will
> >> ? not be found!
> >>
> >> ? As usual, all djgpp specific files (diffs, README files, etc.) are stored
> >> ? in the /djgpp directory.? The sources have been configured to be build in
> >> ? the "_build" directory.? If for some reason it does not work for you,
> >> ? delete it contents and configure from scratch again.
> >>
> >> ? Please read the docs very __CAREFULLY__ to become familiar with the
> >> product.
> >>
> >>
> >> ? Here is an extract of the CHANGES file showing the user visible changes
> >> from
> >> ? the last port (Lynx 2.9.0dev.1) to this one:
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> 2019-08-26 (2.9.0dev.4)
> >> * revert change to port-handling in 2.9.0dev.3 changes for gophermap
> >> (report
> >> by
> >> ? Martijn Dekker).
> >> * add ro.po, update de.po, et.po, tr.po, vi.po from
> >> http://translationproject.org/latest/lynx
> >>
> >> 2019-08-25 (2.9.0dev.3)
> >> * modify gophermap menu-parsing to handle "h" HTML selectors similarly to
> >> the
> >> ? command-line parsing, which avoids hex-encoding the parameter delimiters
> >> ? "?", "=", ";" as well as "#" (report by Tobias Girstmair) -TD
> >> * make redirection-limit configurable, defaulting to 10 -TD
> >> * remove alert when relative base href is seen, since HTML5 allows for this
> >> ? (report by Sylvain Bertrand) -TD
> >> * modify lynx.iss to use statically-linked bzip2 and gzip programs, and to
> >> ? eliminate a spurious warning when attempting to remove an optional DLL
> >> -TD
> >> * fix a few coverity warnings -TD
> >> * revise HTSimplify to eliminate a redundant "." segment at the beginning
> >> of a
> >> ? path, referring to RFC 3986 5.2.4 (report by Alejandro Lieber) -TD
> >>
> >> 2019-07-31 (2.9.0dev.2)
> >> * improved several configure macros, including workaround for non-POSIX
> >> ? issue with BSDs.
> >> * fix typo in iso15_uni.tbl (Robert Bell)
> >> * update de.po from
> >> http://translationproject.org/latest/lynx
> >> * update config.guess (2019-06-10), config.sub (2019-06-30)
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ? The port consists of the usual three packages that have been produced
> >> using
> >> ? djdev205 (CVS repository code) and can be downloaded from ftp.delorie.com
> >> ? and mirrors as (time stamp 2019-08-31):
> >>
> >>
> >> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 binaries, scripts and man format documentation:
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4b.zip
> >>
> >> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 html format documentation and sample files:
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4d.zip
> >>
> >> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 source:
> >> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4s.zip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ? Send Lynx utils specific bug reports to <address@hidden>.
> >> ? Send suggestions and bug reports concerning the DJGPP port to
> >> ? comp.os.msdos.djgpp or <address@hidden>.
> >>
> >>
> >> Enjoy.
> >>
> >> ??? Guerrero, Juan Manuel <address@hidden>
> >>
> >> On 1/9/19 00:18, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >>> Thomas, Ian,
> >>> Thomas I? personally can do nothing whatsoever with the snapshop. because
> >>> of? how I use a computer,? and the lack of pure dos compiles of Lynx
> >>> recently, my only access to the browser, or to the internet in general
> >>> comes? via? using ssh telnet to reach shellworld.
> >>> Ian, if you choose to access this snapshot, can you test for improvements?
> >>> I will likely have to wait first for its incorporation into a lynx
> >>> edition,
> >>> then? to how? these changes might be incorporated into shellworld before I
> >>> try.
> >>> Regardless I am reporting to Amazon, so a test of some kind will be
> >>> helpful.
> >>> Kare
> >>>
> >>
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