Re: [glob2-devel] Is this project dead?

[Leo Wandersleb]

old repo should not be removed. It should point to the new one.

Also I am pretty sure I migrated glob2 to git before. I'm confused to not find 
it :/

Thanks Kyle for taking initiative!

On 12/27/19 8:49 AM, Linus Probert wrote:
> Ok. So the wiki needs an update and the old bb repo needs to be locked/removed
> then 😉
>
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 20:37, Kyle L <address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>
>     https://github.com/Globulation2/glob2
>
>
>     Kyle
>
>     On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:52 AM Kyle L <address@hidden
>     <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>
>         There was a conversation about someone saying we should move to gitlab
>         for idealistic reasons, but at the time mercurial on bitbucket was
>         working and most people on here are pragmatists so we did nothing.
>         Sounds like now doing nothing will no longer work though. Github was 
> the
>         one we all thought would be the best for trying to restart development
>         and get fresh blood working on it but nobody had the time to put in 
> that
>         effort, at least if I recall the whole conversation correctly.
>
>         Kyle
>
>         On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:42 AM Linus Probert <address@hidden
>         <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>
>             I think github is the way to go these days. But hasn’t a github 
> move
>             been decided on before? Sounds familiar. 
>
>             On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 17:35, Kyle L <address@hidden
>             <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>
>                 Any objections to transitioning it to git? And then I can set 
> it
>                 up on github
>
>                 Kyle
>
>                 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM Valentin Lorentz
>                 <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>
>                     btw, we'll need a new home for the code repository, as
>                     Bitbucket is
>                     going to close its Mercurial hosting next June
>                     
> https://bitbucket.org/blog/sunsetting-mercurial-support-in-bitbucket
>
>                     On 26/12/2019 14:29, Masoud wrote:
>                     > Thank you. I am not an expert in C++ but I'd like to get
>                     into it. I have
>                     > cloned the repo from bitbucket I might post some 
> questions
>                     as I'm going
>                     > through the code.
>                     >
>                     > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 16:11 Michiel De Muynck
>                     <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>
>                     > wrote:
>                     >
>                     >> I still like this game too. I unfortunately don't have
>                     the time to work on
>                     >> it anymore (or to play it) but I wouldn't mind being a
>                     mentor for anyone
>                     >> who would like to become a developer for this game.
>                     >>
>                     >> Happy holidays,
>                     >> Migi
>                     >>
>                     >> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 03:51, Kyle L
>                     <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>                     >>
>                     >>> The game isn't going to disappear. If we can find 
> people
>                     who want to work
>                     >>> on it I can spend the time to put together a project
>                     plan to revitalize it,
>                     >>> fix up the networking code, fancier graphics, etc. I
>                     just don't have the
>                     >>> time to pick up c++ again or learn how to do graphics
>                     design for fancy
>                     >>> assets. The networking code always gave us a headache 
> as
>                     you started to add
>                     >>> more people so I would think that would be the first
>                     thing needing a
>                     >>> revamp. What do the rest of you guys think?
>                     >>>
>                     >>> Kyle
>                     >>>
>                     >>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 6:48 PM Othniel Graichen
>                     <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>
>                     >>> wrote:
>                     >>>
>                     >>>> This game is alive. It is at map making stage. 
> Players
>                     can create own
>                     >>>> maps, upload to yoga and share custom levels. Please 
> do
>                     not remove.
>                     >>>>
>                     >>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 6:46 AM <address@hidden
>                     <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>                     >>>>
>                     >>>>> Seems like everyone is moving on to something 
> different.
>                     >>>>>
>                     >>>>> I could help making Globulation post-quantum 
> secure...
>                     but I don't know
>                     >>>>> if it could even apply^^
>                     >>>>>
>                     >>>>> Have nice Holidays!
>                     >>>>>
>                     >>>>> On 2019-12-25 08:18, Leo Wandersleb wrote:
>                     >>>>>> Happy Holidays everyone :D
>                     >>>>>>
>                     >>>>>> Yes, the code is quite massive and I think of doing
>                     modular rewrites
>                     >>>>>> from time
>                     >>>>>> to time. In Kotlin though :D
>                     >>>>>>
>                     >>>>>> I haven't done game development in years but the
>                     approach glob2 did to
>                     >>>>>> deterministically compute all on all clients is
>                     beautiful and I
>                     >>>>> wonder
>                     >>>>>> how many
>                     >>>>>> players with how many units on how big a map would 
> be
>                     doable today.
>                     >>>>> The
>                     >>>>>> game
>                     >>>>>> currently has a 1024 units per team, 16 teams limit
>                     but the map size
>                     >>>>>> was not
>                     >>>>>> allowing to get anywhere near such numbers given 
> how
>                     wheat needs
>                     >>>>> water
>                     >>>>>> around
>                     >>>>>> ... oh, the memories :D
>                     >>>>>>
>                     >>>>>> Stephane I thought you were doing something with 
> robots?
>                     >>>>>> I also started my little big time consuming 
> project:
>                     >>>>>> https://walletscrutiny.com/
>                     >>>>>>
>                     >>>>>> Kind Regards,
>                     >>>>>>
>                     >>>>>> Leo
>                     >>>>>>
>                     >>>>>> On 12/24/19 11:10 PM, Stéphane Magnenat wrote:
>                     >>>>>>> A technical note here: one of the biggest hurdle 
> to
>                     maintain and
>                     >>>>>>> evolve
>                     >>>>>>> Globulation's code was the hard to read and to
>                     understand state
>                     >>>>>>> machines for
>                     >>>>>>> unit and building behaviours. Modern technologies
>                     such as async
>                     >>>>>>> programming
>                     >>>>>>> could help massively with that.
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>> Should someone had time, nowadays we could dream 
> of
>                     a Rust rewrite
>                     >>>>>>> with a web
>                     >>>>>>> assembly target and websocket networking.
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>> cheers all,
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>> Stéphane
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>> On 24 December 2019 00:45:51 CET,
>                     address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden> wrote:
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>     In 15 years someone will rediscover 
> globulation
>                     and it will
>                     >>>>> become
>                     >>>>>>> the
>                     >>>>>>>     next mainstream AAA game ;)
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>     On 2019-12-23 19:15, Othniel Graichen wrote:
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>         Don't kill it I love this game.
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>         On Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 12:22 PM Valentin 
> Lorentz
>                     >>>>>>> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>
>                     >>>>>>>         wrote:
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>             Hi,
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>             Same reply as Kyle. Website works for 
> me
>                     (I'm the
>                     >>>>> hoster,
>                     >>>>>>> btw) but
>                     >>>>>>>             the
>                     >>>>>>>             project is indeed inactive.
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>             There have been some attempts to 
> revive
>                     it in the recent
>                     >>>>>>> past (see
>                     >>>>>>>             the
>                     >>>>>>>             mail archives
>                     >>>>>>> 
> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/glob2-devel/ ),
>                     >>>>>>>             but
>                     >>>>>>>             didn't go far, because of lack of time
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>             On 23/12/2019 18:25, Kyle L wrote:
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>                 The website is working for me. The
>                     project is
>                     >>>>>>> currently dormant
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>             though. I
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>                 don't think anyone has worked on 
> it
>                     for quite some
>                     >>>>>>> time.
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>                 Kyle
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>                 On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 10:13 AM 
> Masoud
>                     >>>>>>> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>             wrote:
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>                     The webpage
>                     http://www.globulation2.org/ is
>                     >>>>> down.
>                     >>>>>>> Anyone working
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>             on this
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>                     game at the moment?
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>>>
>                     >>>>>
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