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To stupid to install tramp...


From: Sven Utcke
Subject: To stupid to install tramp...
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:57:29 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.4i

Hi,

I'm currently using 
(defconst tramp-version "$Id: tramp.el,v 2.22 2001/05/28 09:54:45 grossjoh Exp 
$"
which works quite well for what I do.  However, it is a bit dated, so
I decided to install 2.0.35 instead.  It took me a while to figure out
that GNU make 3.74 was to old to use, but now, with 3.80, I can at
least run make.  I tried to install for the following emacsen:

emacs 20.3
xemacs 20.4
emacs 21.1
xemacs 21.1

I completely failed on the first two:

./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/software/tramp-2.0.34 
--with-lispdir=/software/tramp-2.0.34/share/emacs/20.3/site-lisp
[...]
make USE_CONTRIB=1 all
[...]
emacs --no-site-file -batch --eval "(add-to-list 'load-path \".\")"  --eval "(ad
d-to-list 'load-path \"../contrib\")" -f batch-byte-compile  tramp-efs.el
While compiling toplevel forms in file /software/tramp-2.0.34/tramp-2.0.34/lisp/
tramp-efs.el:
  !! Args out of range ((1 33))
Done
make[1]: *** [tramp-efs.elc] Error 1
[...]
[7] [8] (./tramp.tmp) (./tramp.tmp) (./tramp.tmp) (./tramp.tmp) (./tramp.tmp)
(./tramp.tmp) (./tramp.tmp) (./tramp.tmp) [9] (./tramp.tmp) (./tramp.tmp)
(./tramp.tmp)
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again> 
                   @unhbox 
@leavevmode ->@unhbox 
                      @address@hidden 
 ->@leavevmode 
               @penalty @tiepenalty @ 
[...]
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on tramp.dvi (48 pages, 98924 bytes).
Transcript written on tramp.log.
/software/texinfo-4.5/SunOS-5.8/bin/texi2dvi: tex exited with bad status, quitti
ng.


or

make distclean
./configure --with-xemacs --prefix=/software/tramp-2.0.34 
--with-lispdir=/software/tramp-2.0.34/share/xemacs/20.4/site-lisp
[...]
make  USE_CONTRIB=1 all
[...]
xemacs --no-site-file -batch --eval "(add-to-list 'load-path \".\")"  --eval "(a
dd-to-list 'load-path \"../contrib\")" -f batch-byte-compile  tramp.el
Compiling /software/tramp-2.0.34/tramp-2.0.34/lisp/tramp.el...
While compiling toplevel forms in file /software/tramp-2.0.34/tramp-2.0.34/lisp/
tramp.el:
  !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer"))
Done
[...]

And of course again the texinfo-bug (I'm using 4.5)


Now, with emacs 21.1 I can actually run the make, but the install
fails, as it expects the target directories to exist.  Fixing that, I
end up with an installed version.  So I now run emacs -q and then
execute:

;; Which Emacs are we running? 
(if (boundp 'running-xemacs)
    (setq emacs-name "xemacs")          ; XEmacs
  (setq emacs-name "emacs")             ; GNU Emacs
)
;; add to load-path
(add-to-list 'load-path (concat "/software/tramp-2.0.34/share/" emacs-name "/" 
                   (int-to-string emacs-major-version) "." 
                   (int-to-string emacs-minor-version) "/site-lisp"))
(add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list "/software/tramp-2.0.34/info/")
(require 'tramp)

But --- Emacs seems unable to see the connection which actually exists
(it times out after 60s, even though the *tramp...* buffer shows me
that I did log in).

And xemacs 21.1?  It tries to make an ftp-connection...


Well, I guess I'm doing something very, very stupid --- but what?  It
must be obvious, since I'm the first to ask, but I simply have no clue
as to what the reason could be.

BTW, 2.0.35 shows basically the same behaviour...

Sven

PS: I don't include full debugging info as I assume I'm doing
    somethind very basic wrong --- but I can of course provide you
    with any info you require.
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