Re: [Tlf-devel] Bugs....cannot complete autoreconf

[w9ya]

Hey Tom and the gang;

NO problem on waiting until you are ready to create a fix for the main
package i.e. v1.3.1 .

And thanks for ALL the great help.

(There are now TWO versions of tlf at archlinux 1.2.2-1 (from the
release tarball) and a 1.2.4.5.r23.g325f223-1 (from the git repo.
!!!!) <- So the effort was worth it imNSho. (Hi Hi)

es vy 73 om de baab w9ya

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:09 AM, Thomas Beierlein <address@hidden> wrote:
> Am Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:28:39 -0700
> schrieb w9ya <address@hidden>:
>
>> Tested...es wrks f.b. om's.
>>
> Very well.
>
>> (Surely there must be a way to make all the distros happy with finding
>> and using panel.h ..... right ?)
>
> And that is not as easy as it sounds. Why? As far as we see, there is
> some great diversity between distros how they install curses/ncurses.
> The main differences are:
>
> - Support for normal or wide character width, sometimes both at the
>   same time
> - Which header files to put in which location.
> - Use pkg-config files or not (Newer ncurses brings even its own
>   ncurses(5/6)-config script).
> - How to handle the extra packages (panel, menu and forms) wih regards
>   the above decisions.
>
> Our changes at end of 2015, were just an attempt to make things better.
> They fixed configuration problems for the distros, we could
> check at that time (OpenSuse, Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo as far as I
> remember). Besides using two or three distros here ourselves, we have to
> rely on feedback from users and distro managers (no offense intended).
>
> So how to proceed? At the moment the following seems reasonable:
>
> - We are just in the process of preparing tlf-1.3.0 for release. It
>   seems not wise to introduce the fix for Arch Linux without further
>   tests on other systems.
> - We will therefor stay atm with the configuration as provided in the
>   github repo for release. So Arch Linux has to patch the script, sorry.
> - We will in parallel try to test the new script on as much distros as
>   available. If all goes well we will bring in the new
>   ax_with_ncurses_extra script in tlf-1.3.1.
>
> Any comment are welcome.
>
> 73, de Tom DL1JBE
>
>>
>> es vy 73 om's de baab w9ya
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:50 AM, w9ya <address@hidden> wrote:
>> > Outstanding !!!!
>> >
>> > I'll test it a.s.a.p.
>> >
>> > es VY 73 om de baab w9ya
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Thomas Beierlein <address@hidden>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Hi Bob,
>> >>
>> >> there is an easy way to fix the problem (at least for Arch Linux)
>> >> by manipulating the ax_with_ncurses_extra.m4 file. That way we can
>> >> check for a <panel.h> if a <ncursesw/panel.h> got not be found.
>> >>
>> >> I have attached such a file to the mail. Maybe you could test it
>> >> on the actual master branch.
>> >> (I fear it will not be go through to the mailing list, but in case
>> >> someone needs it, please give me a hint).
>> >>
>> >> That patch may have downsides for other distros, but it would be
>> >> good to know if it works for your problem.
>> >>
>> >> I will be back in the evening to discuss it further.
>> >>
>> >> 73, de Tom DL1JBE
>> >>
>> >>  Am Fri, 27 Jan 2017
>> >> 20:02:06 -0700 schrieb w9ya <address@hidden>:
>> >>
>> >>> O.K....!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's what I have done on the ARCHLINUX "front";
>> >>>
>> >>> - Updated **and** uploaded to the archlinux repos version to 1.2.2
>> >>> which is the last version that compiles without "'the" panel.h
>> >>> error. ^^^ this version is from NOV-2015 and is before the
>> >>> mid-Dec-2015 notes v/v the changelog and is specific to the
>> >>> issue; re: panel.h and how panel.h is located/found . <- tlf
>> >>> version 1.2.3 will NOT compile (due to the afore mentioned
>> >>> panel.h issue and was released in JAN-2016).
>> >>>
>> >>> - I *have* created a fix to upgrade the version available in the
>> >>> archlinux repos to the latest version of tlf ...and
>> >>> although it is sloppy, it will work.
>> >>>
>> >>> SO ..... it would be helpful to know if this bug is an easy fix or
>> >>> will it take some time to fix ? i.e. The answer will help me
>> >>> decide how to proceed v/v the archlinux repos.
>> >>>
>> >>> TIA for the answer as to any forthcoming fix and VY 73 om's de
>> >>> baab w9ya
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Thomas Beierlein
>> >>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>> >>> > Thanks Bob,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I just made some testing by myself. In former mail I wrote that
>> >>> > ax_with_curses_panel should look for panel.h in different
>> >>> > locations.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It does NOT do that. I just moved the panel.h from
>> >>> > ncurses.w/panel.h to only panel.h and I get the same error as on
>> >>> > your side. The macro stops searching after the first failed
>> >>> > test.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Wrt to the libtinfo problem. That should be fixed with the new
>> >>> > ax_with_curses which uses pkg-config if available.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 73, Tom
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Am Thu, 26 Jan 2017 09:42:40 -0700
>> >>> > schrieb w9ya <address@hidden>:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Hey Ervin, Tom, and the gang;
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> re: the "discussion 72"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I've made SOME progress....AND I can clearly state that
>> >>> >> installing the libtinfo does NOT help by itself ! Nor does it
>> >>> >> help with any of the suggested changes in the
>> >>> >> "./configure ....." invocation. And yeah it is related to
>> >>> >> upstream issues with pkg-config and so forth.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> so:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I have completed a successful test build of tlf-git by making
>> >>> >> it dependent on a new package called lib_tlf. SImple enough
>> >>> >> and this way I can get on with things.
>> >>> >> ** I have attached that to here.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> notes:
>> >>> >> - I am not sure this is the best fix...as a test run of tlf
>> >>> >> looked/seemed odd....that could be due to not actually going
>> >>> >> through a normal/proper config or something more problematic.
>> >>> >> i.e. I do nit use tlf so I am not sure what to expect. (The
>> >>> >> video and colors seem fb.) i.e. ***** I need to compare
>> >>> >> versions a bit first, before I cna talk more completely about
>> >>> >> there being any other &/or remaining issues.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> tnxs fer the clues om's es vy 73 de bob w9ya
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 8:31 AM, w9ya <address@hidden>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Hey Ervin and the gang;
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Please hold off on installing Archlinux....(its a major
>> >>> >> > amount of work actually).
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I'd like to try the solution(s) in the link for "discussion
>> >>> >> > 72" first.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Tnxs om's es vy 73 de bob w9ya
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Ervin Hegedüs
>> >>> >> > <address@hidden> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> Hi Bob,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 08:09:51PM -0700, w9ya wrote:
>> >>> >> >>> Hey all;
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> I *am* able to successfully compile and package v. 1.2.2
>> >>> >> >>> but cannot compile either 1.2.3 or 1.2.4.5. (I didn't try
>> >>> >> >>> any of the releases between those two.)
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> interesting - there was an affected issue, which had been
>> >>> >> >> fixed by Thomas:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> https://github.com/Tlf/tlf/issues/72
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> related commit:
>> >>> >> >> https://github.com/Tlf/tlf/commit/e4d9e86a8516de7d3416e9a190e9af229a1f6ecf
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> but this was on 13rd of Dec, 2016. 1.2.3 had released on
>> >>> >> >> 16th of Jan, 2016.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> I am getting the code from the github repo in all cases
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> To wit, here's that last few lines of where the PKGBUILD
>> >>> >> >>> ( the packaging "recipe" which is attached below).:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> "
>> >>> >> >>>  address@hidden tlf]$ tail tlf-1.2.3-1-x86_64-build.log
>> >>> >> >>> checking pkg-config is at least version 0.16... yes
>> >>> >> >>> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version
>> >>> >> >>> 2.50.2) checking for NcursesW wide-character library... yes
>> >>> >> >>> checking for working ncursesw/curses.h... no
>> >>> >> >>> checking for working ncursesw.h... no
>> >>> >> >>> checking for working ncurses.h... yes
>> >>> >> >>> checking for Curses Panel library with ncursesw/panel.h...
>> >>> >> >>> no configure: error: the Curses Panel library is required
>> >>> >> >>> ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
>> >>> >> >>>     Aborting...
>> >>> >> >>> address@hidden tlf]$
>> >>> >> >>> "
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> *** Here's a few bits of additional info;
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> address@hidden tlf]$ pacman -Qo /usr/include/panel.h
>> >>> >> >>> /usr/include/panel.h is owned by ncurses 6.0+20161224-1
>> >>> >> >>> address@hidden tlf]$
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> probably you're using ArchLinux - may be it's a new bug.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> SO....*If* I am reading the Changelog correctly this "bug"
>> >>> >> >>> was introduced on 15-dec-2015 .
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> may be you're close that the real problem. (the Changelog
>> >>> >> >> contains 2015-12-19, not 15 - but it doesn't matter...)
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> Anyways, The comments in the code indicate that this
>> >>> >> >>> *should NOT* be a problem, so I am not exactly sure what
>> >>> >> >>> is causing this. (Then again I am writing this email prior
>> >>> >> >>> to doing anything much more than finding the problem.)
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'll try to install an ArchLinux to a VM, and try to
>> >>> >> >> reproduce your problem - I need some time...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> 73, Ervin
>> >>> >> >> HA2OS
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
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