Re: [Savannah-users] Question about Email Lists

[Stephen H. Dawson]

Well, I am concerned I could miss something using the local spam filter.
I guess I will have to stay with that approach. Thanks for the input,
much appreciated.

Thank You,
Stephen H. Dawson
(865) 804-3454
http://www.linkedin.com/in/shdcs


On 02/17/2014 12:18 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-02-17 at 11:57 -0500, Stephen H. Dawson wrote:
>> I receive email that remotecontrol has a new posting, needing my review.
>> I go to review the posting, and it is gone. I assume it is due to spam,
>> as the email I receive about a notification are also are flagged by my
>> email client as spam.
>>
>> It seems like a waste of time to email, then one second later identify
>> the list posting as spam. It seems more valuable to receive the list
>> posting, determine if it is spam, and only then email when it is
>> determined to not be spam.
>>
>> What will it take to improve the emailing to list holders, to not be
>> bothered with notification of postings that are identified as spam?
> I think this would be a very significant change, because the
> notification of moderation is handled by mailman as soon as the mail is
> received, while the spam detection is a separate step that is
> implemented for the GNU mailing lists and runs periodically.  Finding a
> way to add hooks into the mailman notification methods so that they
> won't run until after the spam detector has run on that email would be a
> lot of effort, I expect, and probably involve new development on the
> mailman side.
>
> What I do is train my _local_ spam detection to throw all the spammy
> moderation requests into my local spam folder.  The GNU mailing list
> spam detecter is really extremely good now, so I completely ignore (do
> not bother to moderate) all moderation requests that are put into my
> spam folder and I assume they'll disappear on their own.  If I'm
> scanning my local spam folder and I notice something that needs
> moderation that's not spam I train my spam filter on it, then handle it.
>
> That leaves (a) moderation mail that doesn't match my local spam filter
> and shows up in my inbox, which I'll deal with directly (if it's not
> spam I'll approve it, if it is spam I train my local spam filters on it
> then delete it), and (b) daily reports of mail that needs moderation
> from the GNU lists: if I get this email then something I thought was
> spam was not considered spam by the GNU list spam detector.  In that
> case I go handle it.
>
> In the very worst case this may mean that a message waits a day to get
> moderated, but this is a very rare situation once you've trained your
> local filters.
>
> I find I spend very little time on GNU list moderation, which is
> excellent!
>
>
> HTH!
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