Re: [Lynx-dev] the frustration of this kind of advice, was about user agent headers

[Karen Lewellen]

No Pannix cannot
At least not as of  my last try with them.
My situation is also  rather unique for physical reasons.
That price for pannix is more than I pay here too, and I have my site 
hosted here as well.
Pannix was reprehensible when I tried to work with them.



On Tue, 30 Nov 2021, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Someone don't understand files ownership and files permissions.  If a copy
> of lynx.cfg is put in a user directory the user needs to take ownership of
> that file.  If ownership cannot be taken it's probably a copy of a shared
> file and since the user in this case has no root privileges they cannot
> take ownership of the file.  In that case, best to download a copy of the
> entire lynx source and extract the lynx.cfg file from that into the user
> directory in which case then the user owns that copy and can edit it and
> use it without effecting the rest of the system.  Dreamhost was and maybe
> still is the internet provider for shellworld.net and they are remote and
> antisocial as I remember them (best left alone).
> Panix can get you a telnet account for $100.00 a year and that's where I
> landed once my shellworld.net account got black listed by some Hungarian
> who posted his exploit on the web which I later found.  He figured me to
> be an undesireable.
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021, Travis Siegel wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry, but you're not making any sense.
> >
> > First off, My advice was to create a lynx.cfg file in your home directory. 
> > That has absolutely nothing to do with system level configuration files.
> >
> > Secondly, if a system user can change system wide configuration files, it's
> > because your system administrators aren't doing their job properly.  Those
> > configuration files should not be writable by anyone on the system that is a
> > regular user.
> >
> > Giving advice to create and modify configuration files that live in your home
> > directory is a perfectly reasonable approach, and sometimes, the only way to
> > accomplish something.  If your system is hosed from someone messing with
> > system level configuration files, that's not the fault of anybody changing
> > configuration files that live in their own home directory.
> >
> > Whatever happened on dreamhost or shellworld is in no way related to anyone
> > making changes to their own configuration files.
> >
> > Go yell at someone else.
> >
> > On 11/30/2021 5:21 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > Travis,
> > > Please do not ever advise anyone to tamper with a file associated with a
> > > shared  service like the one we have here.
> > > I am expressing this because right now I am experiencing what happens when
> > > someone, not myself, does this kind of tampering and not knowing what they
> > > are doing, creates problems for everyone.
> > > First our lynx startfile  disappeared entirely..for two days.
> > > then when it returned, it came to a start page that does not work fully with
> > > lynx, all the items provided lead to YouTube, which as others have noted no
> > > longer really works with lynx at all.
> > > Its 5 a. m. I have been up all night waiting until I can call our admin
> > > because   either we have a security risk, or the same person tampering with
> > > lynx  has also changed the browser associated with email accounts, meaning I
> > > am not going to get any work done today either.
> > > Do not ever even hint that I  am unwilling to help myself. tampering with
> > > config files that are provided by shared  hosting services like this ought
> > > to be a crime.
> > > dreamhost does not even understand how lynx works at all, I provided them
> > > with a trace file showing how I cannot reach our work control panel, and
> > > even though they duplicated the problem they could, or would not fix the
> > > issue.
> > > Its one reason why I happily pay so much for shellworld, I can get my work
> > > done, at least when no one is damaging the services here.
> > > Karen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 14 Nov 2021, Travis Siegel wrote:
> > >
> > > > You can easily create your own lynx.cfg file, put it in your home
> > > > directory, then start lynx with a -cfg=<filename> command line parameter,
> > > > and poof, you have full control over your lynx configuration, no need to
> > > > depend on the system wide one at all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/14/2021 2:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > >  Russell,
> > > > >  Because my access to lynx is tied to a service, I do not edit their
> > > > >  lynx.cfg files.
> > > > >  In fact, I do not even know where they are kept.
> > > > >  Karen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  On Sun, 14 Nov 2021, russellbell@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >       Quoth Karen Lewellen: 'the shellworld setup for lynx, there is
> > > > > >   an associated editor.  One that allows me, at least if the command
> > > > > >   "use control x e for editor" is spoken by lynx when I am on a field.
> > > > > >   If it is a single line, I cannot employ my editor. Meaning I cannot
> > > > > >   use control r and bring a file into the edit line.  I would have to
> > > > > >   type it manually.'
> > > > > >       You can edit $HOME/.lynxrc directly
> > > > > > >       useragent=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1;
> > > > > rv:1.9.2) >  Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6 l_y_n_x
> > > > > > >   is mine.
> > > > > > >   russell bell
> > > > > > > >