Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching gmail in basic html?

[dan d.]

I read somewher elinks and the like use a subset of java only with inherent 
limited java functionality.
That is likely what google is seeing when querying a client request.

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Actually, this is not correct.
> I have gotten this duplicated by google accessibility  staff.  In fact
> Google  stated in an article recently that  since only crooks turn off
> JavaScript, they will not allow anyone  to sign into their gmail account
> without JavaScript.
> When I requested answers for accessibility reasons, one staff member
> duplicated the issue using elinks, and told me that it was because Google
> did  not consider elinks  to use the "right" kind of JavaScript.
> Later, a different staff member who normally uses links reported that they
> too   could no longer reach basic html using the browser.
> This is not a client issue, as I am going directly to  google for my gmail
> reading.
> Karen
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Mouse wrote:
>
> >> The Thunderbird story is interesting because prior to now I could use
> >> elinks and links, which both can incorporate JavaScript to reach my
> >> research gmail account.
> >
> >> They no longer allow it though because google claims it is not the
> >> right kind of JavaScript.  Generally speaking I too would love
> >> learning how this is done.
> >
> > This has to depend on something in your client.  Google cannot, after
> > all, observe anything about your client except its network behaviour;
> > something is provoking different network behaviour - or, possibly, your
> > client's blind trust in the JS Google is sending it is causing it to
> > refuse you locally without exhibiting _any_ network behaviour.
> >
> > My guess would be that your JS implementation includes some kind of
> > "this is what sort of implementation I am" string, which Google is
> > asking it to send back - or, more stupidly but in my estimation a
> > little more likely, is checking somewhere in the JS code it sends to
> > you.  Learning details (without help from Google, which help I doubt
> > would be forthcoming) would probably require inspecting the JS it sends
> > and/or snooping the cleartext of the communication.  Neither one sounds
> > trivial to me, though.
> >
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