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Re: Gounod - Le Rendez Vous


From: tisimst
Subject: Re: Gounod - Le Rendez Vous
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 06:52:20 -0700 (MST)

Alberto,

On Saturday, November 21, 2015, Simon Albrecht-2 [via Lilypond] <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 21.11.2015 20:21, Alberto Simões wrote:

>
>
> On 20/11/15 11:30, Alberto Simões wrote:
>> Hey
>>
>> On 20/11/2015 05:49, Abraham Lee wrote:
>>> That being said, since there appears to be arguments for doing it both
>>> ways, I'd recommend that you pick one way and be consistent throughout
>>> the entire work.
>
> Can I ask what you like better? [1]
>
> Valse 2, measures 3/4 or measures 7/8?
I prefer measures 11/12. Measure 8 should have \oneVoice already, I think.

Personally, I like m. 3/4. For me it instantly clarifies what is tied and what isn't. This is true throughout the entire work. I realize that containing ties makes parts like Valse 2 m. 33-36 and 38-41 have longer phrases, so I would at least enclose the tie with the right-side slur. That seems more true to the phrasing. In m. 45-48, I'd do the same with both ties, breaking it into two shorter phrases where the tie begins each one.

NOTE: whichever way you choose to treat the ties/slurs, do it consistently for the entire work.

I also agree with Simon that at m. 7 you should already be back to \oneVoice. That will make the beam group in m. 8 look much better (as well as the slur). There are other measures that should be done similarly.

There are other times that the two voices have notes of the same duration, but remain separate voices. This happens multiple times in Valse 2 (m. 7, 21, 23, 31, 55, 57, 71, 73, 81). I see no reason you can't join them together with \oneVoice even though the original engraving doesn't. I guess you get to decide on that one.

One other thing I noticed in Valse 2, m. 42-43 - remove staccato from tied end notes. They just don't make sense. I would guess the one in the source engraving (m. 42) is a typo as it is omitted in the next measure. Maybe I'm wrong.

Valse 1 looks great! There's a natural in the LH chord in m. 58 that shouldn't be there. If so a double check on all accidentals just to be sauté there aren't others that should or shouldn't be there.

I'd also still consider eliminating the collisions between bar lines and dynamic text using some kind of whiteout.

Looks like there are more ties and slurs to consider in the Coda section.

That's all for now. Good work! This will be a fine addition to IMSLP.

Best,
Abraham
 


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