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Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object
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Ihor Radchenko |
Subject: |
Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object |
Date: |
Mon, 23 Dec 2024 17:10:34 +0000 |
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 1. They could be inspected from Elisp, and hopefully optimized
>> better. For now, there is simply no way to detect which parts of
>> regexps are slow and which are not.
>
> If we can optimize them from Lisp, we should be able to do the same in
> C. If you explain what kind of optimization opportunities you had in
> mind, we could discuss how to implement that. In any case, adding
> APIs for regexp optimizations doesn't require to have compiled regexp
> objects.
What I had in mind is some kind of profiler for regexps. I cannot
imagine such a profiler without having access to the state machine
instructions emitted by regexp compiler - there will be no easy mapping
between regexp itself and the resulting compiled instructions (that
mapping will depend on the specifics of Emacs compiler)
>> 2. They could maybe even be constructed from Elisp, opening
>> opportunities for custom regexp compilers that can be tailored to
>> specific application needs rather than having to stick to hard-coded
>> generic tradeoffs Emacs has to do without knowing the purpose of a
>> regexp.
>
> How will this help making matching faster, and why does this have to
> be via compiled regexp objects?
My motivation is
https://burntsushi.net/regex-internals/#literal-extraction that explains
how regexp compilation depends on certain heuristics.
For example, when searching for "\\(foo\\|bar\\)[a-z]+", heuristics
invoking simple string literal search for "foo" and "bar" first before
using heavy regexp automata is justified. Not so much when the prefix is
simply " " that usually occurs very frequently in text.
However, for specially structures texts (e.g. in parsers), additional
knowledge about structure is available and can be utilized to fine-tune
the regexp compilation.
Ultimately, an ability to construct instructions from scratch can be
useful - this may allow going beyond what Emacs regexp syntax provides;
and faster.
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- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, (continued)
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Stefan Monnier, 2024/12/09
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Ihor Radchenko, 2024/12/22
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/12/22
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Ihor Radchenko, 2024/12/22
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/12/22
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Ihor Radchenko, 2024/12/22
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Björn Bidar, 2024/12/23
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- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Ihor Radchenko, 2024/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/12/23
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- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Björn Bidar, 2024/12/24
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Stefan Monnier, 2024/12/24
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Ihor Radchenko, 2024/12/24
- Re: [PATCH] add compiled regexp primitive lisp object, Stefan Monnier, 2024/12/24